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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Thu 22 Jan - 5:35

I am thinking that all the moral and legal arguments in this case are right here on the above page in cyberspace. People all over the world need look no further. I have never read a legal case, heard a lecture presented by a doctoral professor, or examined research that illuminated as many reference points in my brain as this case does. And, no matter how the arguments are presented from all our different backgrounds and education, we are all searching for an equable application of the standard of law.

Albena--the hallmark of everything that encapsulates hard work, dedication, and righteousness--deserves utmost consideration from her fellow Bulgarians. Anyone wishing bad thoughts on Albena only makes himself look bad. In my mind, Albena will always be a beacon of light that shines forevermore from Bulgaria throughout the world. And she will forevermore be remembered for her accomplishments with her partner, Maxim.

For those who wish harsh punishment for Maxim, I would say to read the words of Natalia Linichuk and Genady Karonosov or Vasco Vasilev. Judge how much hard work and loss of sleep Maxim has given for Bulgaria against what he is receiving from Bulgaria now.

My background and education taught me many skills to engage in the search for truth. Other programs of study follow a different set of skills when juxtaposing actions with law. However, I think the moral law of consistency must be stable in all cases of like manner, and this is what I find lacking in Maxim's case. The real question is: Will Bulgaria discriminate against Maxim and treat him disparately because he is a well-known figure and of Russian and Jewish descent, or will the standard of law be applied the same as to other defendants in similar cases?

Ms. Adelina Deliiska, thank you for delineating the arguments in this case. You have defended your arguments well, and for that I highly commend you. Viktoria, thank you for the translations.

I am forever indebted to all the girls in this forum for the way you search for and assure that the truth is promulgated here. Petra, you are my rock with all your corrections. We are so fortunate to have you in this forum. What I can say to the members of this forum is that you serve as my moral board in my daily life. When I have a moral decision to make--which occurs each and every day--I think, How would Petra look at this? or What would Viktoria say? I learn something valuable every time I read your discussions as to how you view the world and its very human interactions. Ms. Delisska is right: there is no room for barbaric thinking in this space and time, where knowledge is only a keystroke away from messaging people all over the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Fri 30 Jan - 0:10

Албена и Максим играят в Давос

24 Часа


На Световния икономически форум в Давос България няма участник на държавно равнище, но страната ни ще бъде представена от двама, които в последните години се превърнаха почти в посланици. heart2
Това са Албена Денкова и Максим Стависки. Двукратните световни шампиони по фигурно пързаляне при танцовите двойки заминаха вчера за Швейцария, за да играят на гала, организирана специално заради форума.
Нищо чудно сред зрителите да бъде и Путин. Това е шега, разбира се. Все още нямаме идея точно какво са подготвили домакините, коментира Албена. Министър-председателят на Русия е сред световните лидери, които са в Давос.
Денкова и Стависки тръгнаха за форума от Москва. В столицата те в продължение на няколко месеца играха в изключително популярния телевизионен проект на Първи канал “Ледена епоха”. Максим и партньорката му Татяна Арнтголц обраха повечето от наградите, определени от зрителите. Албена участва с Тимур Родригес, но напусна шоуто, защото скъса менискус на тренировка. Двамата обаче бяха отличени за най-добро превъплъщение в популярните герои от руското “Лека нощ, деца”.
Денкова е председател на Българската федерация по кънки и наскоро подаде оставка, тъй като е заета с “Ледена епоха” и заради проблемите на Стависки с правосъдието след катастрофата край Ропотамо. Управителният съвет обаче не я прие. Албена е председател на организационния комитет на световното по фигурно пързаляне за юноши и девойки от 23 февруари до 1 март в София. На леда в Зимния дворец зрителите ще могат да гледат програмите на българската танцова двойка Лора Семова и Димитър Личев. Столицата ни бе домакин на световното в тази възрастова група и миналия сезон. Тогава тук пристигна бившата звезда на България при мъжете Иван Динев, който с приятелката си Анджела Никодинов (американка от български произход) е треньор в Калифорния. (24 часа)
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Fri 30 Jan - 0:15

Thanks Eli zvet !!! Friends
I just translated it for me and I think this is the IceAge show in Davos (30. or 31.01.2009), the one from which I some days ago posted in IceAge section that only spectators that are "invited" by "Russian government" can watch the show... sunny

There is an international symposium there in Davos at the moment, with very high security standards; hotel rooms in Davos this weekend for example can only be booked if you have an invitation of the symposium, ..., tickets for the shows are not officially sold... high security standard there too! Wink

P.S.: The translation of this article from Eli I have put into the section "News", topic "Schedule"... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Sun 1 Mar - 4:19

http://paper.standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2009-03-01&article=268804 (in Bulgarian)

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"Requiem remain in their history, says great coach
Mercy, the crash was tragic accident
Karponosov wants Albena and Max back on the ice

Genadii Karponosov is coach, who along with his wife Natalia Linichuk forth Albena Denkova and Maxim Staviski two world titles in ice dancing. We talked to Karponosov who now works in Aston (Pennsylvania State), at the Junior Worlds in figure skating in Sofia. The Russian coach came with a couple from the UK - Genevieve Deutsche and Ivan Roberts. This season he and Linichuk prepare a claim for titles Domnina / Shabalin (Rus) and Belbin / Agosto (USA).

Genadii Karponosov (right) with his wife Natalia Linichuk are happy guests of Albena and Maxim.
- You regret that Albena and Maxim departed from you?
- Sure. We are sorry; not only we but also the world of figure skating. I think their last free program of 2007 will enter into the golden fund of ice dancing.
I am sure that after many years will not say it was a long time and is no longer so good. Instead, this program of Mozart requiem will remain forever as a model.
- How do you comment on the issue of Maxim with justice?
- Max is our pain. We do experience it severe. Natalia often talks to
Max on the phone and practically knows all the changes in the case. In principle, we can not justify it. But the crash was a tragic accident. This is not an explanation, of course, nor for the relatives of the dead man, nor for the treatment of the girl or for the court. But I must show mercy to Maxim. Because he is a good man and he has great chance to get right to it. As a collision of planets - 1 million. Plus Max is an unusual personality, talent, which must be maintained. Therefore we hope that Bulgarian justice to correctly assess the circumstances and not to impose punishment too raw. Yes, Maxim has breached the Act. But he is so cruel (punished?) as no court can not punish him. Maxim is torn from feeling guilty during that year and a half. And this is much more severe than punishment of prison.
So we hope to understand and to complete all the sooner.
- Is it in your view immoral for Maxim to participate in the show "IceAge"?
- From the viewpoint of the relatives of the victims, yes. He participated in the fun show. But on the other hand, Maxim nowhere else can work and earn money. Now they are not on the ice, competitions for professionals and champions of the road are reduced as possible. Only one wage coaching Maxim cannot EARNING enough to cover the benefits that have been convicted. And now it is full of coaches. That is a world champion is unlikely you will attract elite athletes. He has no alternative but to join in the "IceAge".
- And you think of Maxim will become good coach?
- There is no guarantee that an excellent figure skater may leave an excellent coach. We Natalia we only Olympic champions who have prepared the Olympic champions. We are the exception. Coaching profession is ungrateful, costs many nerves. There are many less. It really is wonderful when your players win big tournaments. But that happiness is only a short moment. They are more of honorary stairs, and you already thinking about new programs, what are you doing tomorrow. Our athletes are like children. They spend more time than with their own daughter. Skaters suffering has any personal problems, marriage, divorce, and suffered along with him and coach. And when the family is a great sport to coach is the hardest of all to pay attention. Looks easy, but for our profession when we judge the camera before the race and go with the hand in greeting on the screen. But behind this lies hard work. Recently, the U.S. championship of one of our couples was adversely affected. I was upset. A secretary of the American Federation me "comfort" with the words: You Genadii do not choose the best profession.
I do not know if Max and Albena will become good coaches. I wish them only the best for them. But I want before they do coaching profession, that they should be returned to the ice. Some of the old world champions such as Michel quantum example, will appear in the Olympics in Vancouver.
- What happened to your British couple in the world in Sofia? Why materially fell down twice free program?
- About Deutsche / Roberts this is their first international competition. And that once took 14 th place performance is because no one knew them before. (...?). Errors were not technical but psychological.
- You work in America. Do you feel the financial crisis?
- We still do not rely on government funding. For students paid work. Somewhere to reduce the lessons, but is not as strong a trend in America.
- And why did you move from Newark in Aston?
- Our Center of figure skating in Newark was at the University of Delaware. When we came here, we offered more favorable conditions. But over time the conditions have changed. The world champions Denkova and Staviski they had to pay 12 000 dollars per year.
Nobody gave privileges. Until now been privileged national players of the U.S. at the expense of others. So as soon as we received from the proposed rink in Aston. Not far. Only 10 miles. Even others to live in Newark. Aston is based in a beautiful, four slides, with room for athletics and choreography.
- How (...?) with two new pairs Belbin / Agosto (USA) Domnina / Shabalin (RUS)?
- Fall into one of the most complex situations in our career. These are couples with ambitions. He wants us to repeat the success of 1996 a European figure skater where we took the first three places plus a fifth. But it is hard to out to the best form. First, prevent the operation of Maxim Shabalin and then Ben Agosto of the trauma that he drag 5 years question why it has not healed earlier. And he answered us that it had. Are more severe loads are other programs, some are our requirements. And therefore it prevents injury. Both of us leading couples prepare very hard for the world in Los Angeles in March.
- Where is figure skating going?
- He wants us to dance on ice to recover (...?) because unfortunately losing viewers. Complicated rules are not always understandable for fans and for including our coach. Plus dance skating has become a hybrid between the other types of figure skating. Not seen how the dance and how to move, whether skating on the edges of the rink, whether doing deep arcs. This is an important element but should not the main objective. I hope things change for the better after the formal meeting of the technical committee and coaches during the world in Los Angeles. Because the current path of development is not correct.
Mara Kalcheva"


I´ll go through this later today and will try to correct the language a little bit, but at the moment I´m too tired for this... Sleeping

Edit: Corrected as much as possible... flower

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Wed 11 Mar - 18:42

Repost Laughing :

First posted, then deleted, now reposted ... Laughing
Really hard to decide what to do with this one, especially with the last paragraph in it Laughing ... Wink

http://www.24chasa.bg/Default.asp?statid=128742&rubr=0&izd=1&fsize=&swidth=800&tr=1&im=03&id=11&iy=2009 (in Bulgarian)

Quote of last paragraph:
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На Албена и Максим (той помага на Жулин в школата) предстоят участия по галаконцерти в Русия, а в средите на фигурното пързаляне напоследък много се говори за възможното им завръщане на състезателния лед и на олимпиадата във Ванкувър догодина. Председателят на Българската федерация по кънки Денкова получи благодарствено писмо от международния съюз за добрата организация на световното за юноши и девойки в София. (24 часа)



Can please someone be so kind to translate the bold from the quote above zvet ? I´m not sure about translation and if it really means what the translator gives me!

Vancouver... OK... But is said here: thinking about going there and to come back to competitions (That´s what I understand out of translations!)?... Or just the contrary???
(I´m not sure about 1 word in translation, and that one is just the word that is needed for understanding... Sorry!)


Sorry for my posting, deleting, reposting, deleting, reposting ... Rolling Eyes scratch Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Wed 11 Mar - 20:45

Petra wrote:

Can please someone be so kind to translate the bold from the quote above zvet ? I´m not sure about translation and if it really means what the translator gives me!

Vancouver... OK... But is said here: thinking about going there and to come back to competitions (That´s what I understand out of translations!)?... Or just the contrary???
(I´m not sure about 1 word in translation, and that one is just the word that is needed for understanding... Sorry!)


I think you understood right,Petra. There is said :in figure skating sphere there is recently said about a probability of their returning to competitions and to the Olympics in Vancouver next year in figure skating sphere
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Wed 11 Mar - 20:53

risha_11 wrote:
Petra wrote:

Can please someone be so kind to translate the bold from the quote above zvet ? I´m not sure about translation and if it really means what the translator gives me!

Vancouver... OK... But is said here: thinking about going there and to come back to competitions (That´s what I understand out of translations!)?... Or just the contrary???
(I´m not sure about 1 word in translation, and that one is just the word that is needed for understanding... Sorry!)


I think you understood right,Petra. There is said :in figure skating sphere there is recently said about a probability of their returning to competitions and to the Olympics in Vancouver next year in figure skating sphere

Risha, you are a darling! Thank you!!!! ohhhh

:smile: :smile: :smile: Alby & Max!! Alby & Max!! Alby & Max!!

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Mon 23 Mar - 15:09

OK, this is not from the Bulgarian Press (Sorry!), but from the Russian Wink !

Thanks to Mirindaa71 zvet who found and posted this in Bulgarian forum!

From the site of "figure-skating-pope" Artur Werner, and the answer is from him Wink ...

Maybe we should really start thinking about opening a topic called "Albena and Maxim at Olympics 2010 in Vancouver" Wink Wink ...

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Quote:
Марина
2009-03-21 11:27:06 Добрый день, Артур!
С недавнего времени ходят слухи, что в большой спорт возвращается пара Албена Денкова-Максим Ставиский. Если они вернутся каковы их шансы на победу в Ванкувере - 2010?
Спасибо

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Здравствуйте, Марина!
Насчёт слухов не в курсе, но такое желание у Албены и Максима, действительно, есть. Преградой к его исполнению может явиться их участие в профессиональном шоу, что запрещено правилами ИСУ. Победить на Олимпиаде в Ванкувере они, естественно, не смогли бы, поэтому и планов таких перед собой не ставят. Хотели бы показать лучшее, на что способны.

http://www.wer-art.com/conf/


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Marina
2009-03-21 11:27:06 Hello, Arthur!
Recently there is a rumor that at the big sport will be back a couple Albena Denkova-Maxim Stavisky. If they come back, what are their chances of winning in Vancouver - 2010?
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Hi, Marina!
About the rumors I do not know, but the desire of the Albena and Maxim, in fact, exists. Obstacle to the execution could be a participation in a professional show, which is against the ISU rules. Winning at the Olympics in Vancouver, they certainly could not, therefore, and such plans do not call ourselves. They would like to show the best they can.

http://www.wer-art.com/conf/"


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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Mon 23 Mar - 18:58

" Obstacle to the execution could be a participation in a professional show, which is against the ISU rules."

What is this?? Every show is "professional".....All the skaters are payed... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Mon 23 Mar - 19:11

I can only presume that he means especially IceAge production, because it´s a production that runs/lasts such a long time ...
He can´t mean participation at Silvestergala in Oberstdorf, ARD-Gala, or Dreams on Ice or something like this...because there a lot of skaters participating at Olympics are participating too...

So, in this sense, for next season this would mean (so at least I understand it!): IceAge or Olympics, but not IceAge and Olympics...

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Mon 23 Mar - 19:38

Petra wrote:
I can only presume that he means especially IceAge production, because it´s a production that runs/lasts such a long time ...
He can´t mean participation at Silvestergala in Oberstdorf, ARD-Gala, or Dreams on Ice or something like this...because there a lot of skaters participating at Olympics are participating too...

So, in this sense, for next season this would mean (so at least I understand it!): IceAge or Olympics, but not IceAge and Olympics...


Thank you Petra, flower ...
Obviously... Olympics OR Ice Age .....
You know what I prefer.. Very Happy Very Happy ohhhh ohhhh
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Tue 24 Mar - 9:40

Petra wrote:
So, in this sense, for next season this would mean (so at least I understand it!): IceAge or Olympics, but not IceAge and Olympics...


Exactly :vo:
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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Sun 29 Mar - 19:33

From Russian European Song Contest ... with skating of Evgeny Plushenko... and a comment of Maxim Staviski ...

If someone wants to have the vid, tell me!

Thanks to PCBH zvet for finding and posting!

http://www.1tv.ru/eurovision/si=5759&fi=715 (in Russian)

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"Если ты выходишь бороться, то надо выигрывать", - считает звезда "Ледникового периода" фигурист Максим Ставиский. - Если ты борешься за первое место, ты можешь получить третье. А если не борешься, то ничего не получишь. Надо думать не о завтрашнем дне, а сегодняшнем. Нужно привезти, а там, думаю, найдется люди и деньги. Москва - не дешевый город, есть и хорошие спонсоры, может, и кризис закончится к этому времени. Думаю, справимся".


Translation of Maxi´s comment by google:
""If you go to fight, then you need to win" - says star of "Ice Age" figure skater Maxim Stavisky. - If you fight for the first place, you can get a third. But if you do not fight for it, it will not work. We should not think about tomorrow, but about today. We need to bring, and, I think there is people and money. Moscow - not a cheap city, there are good and sponsors, may, and the crisis will end by that time. I think, right. ""

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Sat 11 Apr - 1:33

For those who are wondering what Albena heart2 is doing at the moment...
During the last week she was in Sofia, doing her job as "Ms. President" (Yes, she still is Very Happy !! Nobody wanted to do her job Wink ...). There´s a Bulgarian skating event called "Cup of Viktoria" in Sofia at the moment, and Albie as "Ms. President" has to do her duties there... zvet

LINK: http://sport.dir.bg/2009/04/09/news4274938.html (in Bulgarian)

The article itself is not worth translating. It only tells about the different Bulgarian skaters at the event...

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PostSubject: Re: Stuff from the Bulgarian press   Sat 11 Apr - 14:54

Petra, thnx flower I am always thinking of her and where she is now :woow: :woow: :woow:
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