Random pieces of off-season news...

Lana

Lerka wrote:

Thank you, dear sestrichka, for creating this thread! :<33: Kisssssssssss

it's a very uuuuussseeeefulll one Razz

You're welcome, sestrichka! zvet

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And I have one question - Grace, Lana, do you know something about Aliona and Robin? Is there everything ok with Ingo Steuer and DEU? Are they allowed to be coached by Ingo again? confused

I read something about that... Suspect

Let me go find it. :wink:

I'll be back in a minute. :stari:

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Lana wrote:

You're welcome, sestrichka! zvet

:<33: :<33: :<33:

Lana wrote:

I read something about that... Suspect

Let me go find it. :wink:

I'll be back in a minute. :stari:

Wow

you are so nice, sestrichka! Thank you! :<33: Wheee!!

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Lana

Lerka wrote:

Wow

you are so nice, sestrichka! Thank you! :<33: Wheee!!

I try.

hehe. :<33:

Erm... well apparently, Aliona and Robin performed their new FP at the traditional summer festival of the Chemnitz EC. Very Happy

That was the newest update... Erm..

Apparently, it's a very demanding program. Shocked

But, the article also states that their "future is uncertain". Weep

That's not such good news... :disap:

hmm... where was the thing about Ingo, which I read? Suspect

Still looking... Laughing

Lana

I suggest that you read this thread in FSUniverse, Lerochka! :wink:

Sawtschenko and Szolkowy go to court If the link doesn't work, I can summarize what's going on. :wink:

Grace · AM expert Number of posts: 545 Registration date: 2006-03-30

I think the short version of the latest in the Aljona/Robin/Ingo drama is that the German skating federation has fired Ingo, i.e., they will not fund his coaching anymore. Aljona and Robin can't pay him themselves, so their only options are to (1) find another coach or (2) skate for a country that will fund Ingo's coaching. As far as I know, they have not made that decision yet.

Maria

Lera wrote!

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And I have one question - Grace, Lana, do you know something about Aliona and Robin? Is there everything ok with Ingo Steuer and DEU? Are they allowed to be coached by Ingo again?

I happen to looove Aliona and Robin's skating!

I hope everything will turn out fine for them! Really a pity that mess with Ingo! shocked

I remember I read the whole story during the Olympics!

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Bea

Grace wrote!

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I think the short version of the latest in the Aljona/Robin/Ingo drama is that the German skating federation has fired Ingo, i.e., they will not fund his coaching anymore. Aljona and Robin can't pay him themselves, so their only options are to (1) find another coach or (2) skate for a country that will fund Ingo's coaching. As far as I know, they have not made that decision yet.[/quote

Poor Aliona and Robin! They looked so promising last season!
Do you think they will coose to skate for another country??? After all Germany even gave Aliona the German citizenship just in time for them to go to the Games! Very Happy

I like them too!!
Hope they will overcome this very big problem!!! scratch

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Grace · AM expert Number of posts: 545 Registration date: 2006-03-30

Bea wrote:

Do you think they will coose to skate for another country??? After all Germany even gave Aliona the German citizenship just in time for them to go to the Games! Very Happy

I like them too!!
Hope they will overcome this very big problem!!! scratch

I suppose it's possible they could skate for Ukraine, since that's where Aljona's from, but I don't know how easy/hard it might be for Robin to get Ukranian citizenship in time for the next Olympics.

Another possibility that I overlooked in my last post is that they might be able to find a sponsor who would pay for Ingo's coaching-- that would work financially, but I'm not sure if the German federation would allow that, as I think it's possible that they would refuse to allow him to represent the country, that is to say, I don't think they'd let him go to competitions with Aljona and Robin.

I hope they can work this out, too-- they are by far my favourite pair right now.

Maria

Grace wrote!

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I like them too!!
Hope they will overcome this very big problem!!! :scratch:I suppose it's possible they could skate for Ukraine, since that's where Aljona's from, but I don't know how easy/hard it might be for Robin to get Ukranian citizenship in time for the next Olympics.

Another possibility that I overlooked in my last post is that they might be able to find a sponsor who would pay for Ingo's coaching-- that would work financially, but I'm not sure if the German federation would allow that, as I think it's possible that they would refuse to allow him to represent the country, that is to say, I don't think they'd let him go to competitions with Aljona and Robin.

I hope they can work this out, too-- they are by far my favourite pair right now.

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Thanks for all these explanations, Grace!
The situation seems rather complicated.They are such a wonderful team heart2

and they more or less just have found eachother. And they seemed to undestand eachother so well.....
I hope they will compete...either way! saaad

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Thank you Grace for all the info, it's really interesting. But what a pity for Robin and Aljona, they were doing pretty good last year and now this...
I hope it won't affect their training....maybe they can go to the US with Ingo without asking new citizenship like some Russians did...

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Lana wrote:

I suggest that you read this thread in FSUniverse, Lerochka! :wink:

Sawtschenko and Szolkowy go to court If the link doesn't work, I can summarize what's going on. :wink:

Oh wow

thank you, sestrichka! :<33: Now, Lerka is full of different opinions and phrases about Aljona and Robin and Ingo and German federation.. Oh my poor head!

Grace wrote:

I think the short version of the latest in the Aljona/Robin/Ingo drama is that the German skating federation has fired Ingo, i.e., they will not fund his coaching anymore. Aljona and Robin can't pay him themselves, so their only options are to (1) find another coach or (2) skate for a country that will fund Ingo's coaching. As far as I know, they have not made that decision yet.

OMG, Grace, I know nothing about Stasi, so it's so hard for me to understand German federation.. but do they really agree to lose their best couple? :disap:

Ohhh... thank you so much, Grace, for the explanations! Rose

I guess Ukraine will be only happy to get a golden couple so easy.. I hope Aljona and Robin could compete in Grand Prix already.. but.. I'm afraid.. :disap:

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Grace · AM expert Number of posts: 545 Registration date: 2006-03-30

*MAGic diable* wrote:

OMG, Grace, I know nothing about Stasi, so it's so hard for me to understand German federation.. but do they really agree to lose their best couple? :disap:

The Stasi was the East German secret police under the Communist regime-- basically Ingo was spying on other skaters for the government, and apparently he was pretty high up as Stasi informants go. But I think the real problem the German federation is having with Ingo is that he lied about what he did with the Stasi-- apparently there's a ski jumping coach in Germany who was also a Stasi informant, but when he admitted what he had done and took his "punishment" (not being able to travel with the German team to the Olympics) quietly, and now he has been able to resume almost normal activities. Ingo, on the other hand, had claimed that he'd never had anything to do with the Stasi, then he tried to say that he was only a minor informant when there were documents to the contrary... anyhow, the German federation has not "agreed" to lose their best couple, they've simply stopped paying for Ingo's coaching. If Aljona and Robin found another coach, the German federation would pay for it.

I'm not trying to pretend like finding another coach is an easy task especially considering that Ingo and Aljona are dating, but it's not as if there's no solution. I'm sure the German federation very much hopes that Aljona and Robin will continue to represent Germany, but I can understand how they also can't let Ingo get away with what he has done-- some things are more important than skating.

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I guess Ukraine will be only happy to get a golden couple so easy.. I hope Aljona and Robin could compete in Grand Prix already.. but.. I'm afraid.. :disap:

I don't even know how likely it is that they would try to skate for Ukraine. I don't really even know if they're actually considering it, it's just that if they wanted to do that, it would be possible.

But if they decided to switch right now, immediately, of course they would not be allowed to compete internationally this year.

alexandra

I think it's very difficult for them right now. Sad

They started well and they are a valuable couple with high potential. It would be really bad for them if they have to skip this season while trying to solve this matter....

I hope it will work out...there has to be a coach who can take them under his/her wings Smile

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Maria

Thank you for all these informations , Grace! And about Stasi shocked

I admit that I already knew what it was..I even read a book about it.
But..I am astinished that the German Fed are bringing this up now Shocked

after all it's been quite a while ago!!

I am very sorry for Aliona and Robin!
It's so cute to know that they are dating! heart2

They look made for eachother! lol!

I hope there is a coach who can help them, I really do!

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Grace · AM expert Number of posts: 545 Registration date: 2006-03-30

Maria wrote:

Thank you for all these informations , Grace! And about Stasi shocked

I admit that I already knew what it was..I even read a book about it.
But..I am astinished that the German Fed are bringing this up now Shocked

after all it's been quite a while ago!!

It's not so much that they're just bringing it up now, it's that they just found out about it in the last six months or so. If you've read about it, you might know that the Stasi records were destroyed in the last days of the East German regime, and the unified German government has been working at reconstructing them ever since-- it's very slow work.

And I can't remember exactly, but I think that there are some German laws that are also playing a part in this-- I think it might actually be a German law that no one who was a member of the Stasi can represent Germany abroad in an official capacity, which is why it was so difficult for Ingo to get permission to go to the Olympics with Aljona and Robin.

I personally think Ingo has behaved quite poorly through the whole episode Suspect

, but it's very hard on Aljona and Robin.